I'm curious as to how they determined a *knot*--i.e., in assessing the entanglement

within their shaken container. For much of what would count as a knot practically

--e.g., a Fig.8 loopknot--is a non-knot mathemitcally (any such knot TIB (Tiable In

the Bight). Since they say that they used mathematical forumlas to do so, that implies

some way of uniting the ends: this path, too, is of key interest, should an end lie

amid the mess!

As for getting a medal, Dr. Jones has--the biggest one possible, no less, 1990.

--dl*

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