Author Topic: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.  (Read 2353 times)

tsik_lestat

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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 10:50:57 PM »
Hi Alan

Having tied this structure before, i think of it as the simplest one of helical adjustable eyeknots (reply#14).

And here comes the good part....

If you unbend Spart's helical curvature (straighten the helical coil), you will transform it into Xarax's constrictor noose (or buntline extinguisher  ;)) and vice versa.
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Re: Non Slip TIB Adjustable Eye.
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2021, 01:41:56 AM »

BUT we must ask :: what is the point of such a knot,
an "adjustable" eye knot?!  Unlike with some friction-gripping
*fixed* eye, where the eye size in indefinitely large,
these knots are tied with a maximum that can only
be diminished, tightened down --unless a long length
is left for enlarging.  And tightening under load might
be problematic re stability/structure or just plain
limited by force & friction.

In my experience it is harder to make a very strong friction-gripping knot where the loop is adjustable by moving the gripping part along the standing part than it is to make a knot where the loop is adjustable via the working part.

Yes, tightening under load might be problematic, and untying, too.

One application of adjustable loops is to secure loads, but I think Trucker's hitch variations are more suitable for that in many cases.
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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2021, 06:18:19 PM »
           Hi All,  I have two loops here, can handed heavy load and easy to untie.
                      Hope  you like it.  谢谢 alanleeknots.

Do you think there is some advantage in the more complicated version 2 over version 1?
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Re: Non Slip TIB Adjustable Eye.
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2021, 07:36:29 PM »
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The insertion of the WE through this configuration, leads to a non slip, figure 9 based adjustable eyeknot, as shown in the next two images.
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Funnily it looks literally like figure 8 in the first image and reminds of Hunter's Bend in the third one. I learned to tie it my eyes closed.
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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2021, 09:47:34 AM »
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Funnily it looks literally like figure 8 in the first image and reminds of Hunter's Bend in the third one. I learned to tie it my eyes closed.
Interesting this figure 9 geometry can transform to a loop, kind of a Non TIB false Butterfly knot ,
see the photo below,  I think there is  a interlock overhand knot bend or loop, is somewhere in Ashley knot book.
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Do you think there is some advantage in the more complicated version 2 over version 1?
I think so too, version 2 is more stable and compact. 谢谢 alanleeknots.


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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2021, 11:20:45 PM »
Thank you Alan, a very nice pedestrian loop almost a lanyard knot.
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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2021, 11:29:36 PM »
Thank you Alan, a very nice pedestrian loop almost a lanyard knot.
#1452, and Ashley has it as a lanyard knot,
#782 IIRC (or nearby).

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Re: Non Slip Adjustable Eye Knots.
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2021, 10:14:23 PM »
I think so too, version 2 is more stable and compact. 谢谢 alanleeknots.

Well, I think version 1 is more compact and the additional twist in version 2 is not needed.
Jarno Suni