Author Topic: Alpine Zeppelin Loop - the ultimate tie-in knot?  (Read 1369 times)

agent_smith

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Re: Alpine Zeppelin Loop - the ultimate tie-in knot?
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2019, 09:32:09 AM »
Thank you smirnov_wasilii,

Language difficulties aside, and trying to follow whats going on the video - I realized this is simply a variation of the Zeppelin X bend derived eye knot.

What confused me initially is that in the video, smirnov_wasilii treats the 'tail' and 'SPart' in an opposite sense.
This is possibly due to a very short length of cord used in the video presentation - and due to its short length, the notion of 'tail' and 'SPart' can be easily exchanged .

smirnov_wasilii's presentation is detailed in the image at bottom.
Note that my choice of which segment is the Standing Part (SPart) appears to be the opposite of smirnov_wasilii.

Dan_Lehman

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Re: Alpine Zeppelin Loop - the ultimate tie-in knot?
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2019, 08:26:26 PM »
Thank you smirnov_wasilii,
+1, yes.

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Note that my choice of which segment is the Standing Part (SPart) appears to be [IS] the opposite of smirnov_wasilii's.
Yes, exactly : the "b/q" zeppelin aspect is lost in loading.


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smirnov_wasilii

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Re: Alpine Zeppelin Loop - the ultimate tie-in knot?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2019, 07:00:31 PM »
Действительно в моем узле коренной и ходовой концы поменялись местами. Но кто сказал что это плохо. Просто получился другой узел на  той же базовой структуре. Мой узел вяжется на основе петли Светлана, предложенной Матасовыми. Петля Светлана может быть завязана множеством способов в том числе вот так https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzO8MBPbV
Авторские способы вязки петли  Светлана можно тут посмотреть https://findpatent.ru/patent/169/1694736.html
Авторы перебрали почти все возможные варианты вязки и модификации узла Светлана. Но я изобрел свой собственный метод анализа узлов позволяющий видеть узел намного глубже любого автора. В результате получился реверсированный (обращенный, перевернутый) узел Цеппелин , а вернее петля на его базе.
Indeed, in my node root and running ends are reversed. But who said that's a bad thing. Just got another node on the same basic structure. My knot is knitted on the basis of the Svetlana loop offered by Matasovs. Svetlana's noose can be tied in many ways including like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzO8MBPbV
Author's methods of knitting loops Svetlana can be seen here https://findpatent.ru/patent/169/1694736.html
The authors went through almost all possible variants of binding and modification of the Svetlana knot. But I invented my own method of node analysis that allows me to see the node much deeper than any author. The result is a reversed (reversed, inverted) Zeppelin Assembly, or rather a loop on its base.