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Alain Bienvenue

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Repairing a drawstring bag
« on: November 08, 2017, 04:58:38 AM »
So my son (7 y.o.) lost one of the two ropes on his drawstring bag. No big deal. I told him I would fix it after dinner. He did not want to wait, so he says he will fix it himself. While I admire his determination, I had low expectations. Well, he managed to undo one of the knots and re-route the string to the other side, and run is through the fold on the bottom of the bag. The only part he could not do, is tie the string in a loop around that fold.

The string is is soft and slippery, and the bag will be carried and tossed around a lot. The knot I would prefer for this is the water knot (abok 296) loop, for its ability to remained tied under those conditions. I have used it to attach accessories on a backpack that I carried every day for years. It it never came undone or needed tightening. The problem is, that knot requires an overhand prior to  running the string in the fold. It was already through the fold, sans overhand, and I did not want to undo any of my son's work. So, I tied a Chinese crown knot (abok 1066). I know that this knot cannot hold a lot of load, but it is more than sufficient for the task. Dressed tightly, I hope it will remained tied. My son also appreciated how nice the knot looks. :)


The finished loop through the fold is slightly down and right from the center of the image.


What would you have tied?
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Re: Repairing a drawstring bag
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 05:44:44 AM »
Hi Alain,

You seem to know your way around ABoK pretty well.  I hope the decorative knot that your son likes holds up. 

I noticed that the fold seems pretty short such that if you wanted to re-thread it, you could without much trouble, but for the sake of argument, I'll stick to your constraint of leaving the line in place.

An end loop like a Water Bowline would probably hold up well.  Some version of a Lark's Loop might be more decorative while still having decent security.  A hitch such as a Gnat Hitch could also work, but it would tend to compress that little patch of fabric permanently.
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Re: Repairing a drawstring bag
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 07:04:24 AM »
You seem to know your way around ABoK pretty well. 
I keep a list of all knots I am planning to use a reference for it. Most of the references are to ABoK, so I know the parts that are of interest to me. Adding references to drawings or pictures avoid disagreement on a knot's name.

I noticed that the fold seems pretty short such that if you wanted to re-thread it, you could without much trouble ...
Of course I could have, but he was watching over my shoulder, and I did not want him to see me undo what he had done.

An end loop like a Water Bowline would probably hold up well.  Some version of a Lark's Loop might be more decorative while still having decent security.  A hitch such as a Gnat Hitch could also work, but it would tend to compress that little patch of fabric permanently.

Any number of hitches could have done, but this task called for a loop  :)

I did not know about Lark's Loop. I found it a little tricky to tie and dress properly. I am still not sure I got it right, and since I could not find much references to it on the 'net, I attached pictures of the knot I tied, front and back, loose and dressed.






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Re: Repairing a drawstring bag
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 07:40:18 AM »
I did not know about Lark's Loop. I found it a little tricky to tie and dress properly. I am still not sure I got it right, and since I could not find much references to it on the 'net, I attached pictures of the knot I tied, front and back, loose and dressed.
It looks like a Double Lark's Loop.  Well done.  ;)
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