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siriuso

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #105 on: June 06, 2020, 04:37:45 PM »
Hi all,

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2020, 12:09:57 AM »
Hi Siriuso

Adding some constructive feedback.....

1. Compare your brick bend with Xarax capsized 2 2 Cube bend (MB18). You will find it's the same knot.

Link : https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4122.msg24779#msg24779

2. Knotsaver, points out that your Jamboree bend, is the reversed of B18. I believe his estimation, is indeed bang on. Try tying it.

Link : https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4122.msg24780#msg24780

3. Is Axos bend a symmetrical version of EHL? Too bad symmetrical means no tibness, if tied as a midline eyeknot. There is also an asymmetrical non-TIB variation, but i had no time to capture it. Moreover, it is closely related to the following asymmetrical TIB version as well.

Link : https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=6799.msg44806#msg44806

4. I think Dagger and Rigger's eight bend are clone knots. Having tied this structure before, it was rather easy for me to track down the resemblance (don't worry, i am not claiming anything). I guess we are shortening the big list huh? Not really...  :) (minus one). However, nice entagled figure eights.Generally, the figure eight base system, has been expanded by other knotters. Double larkshead, is familiar to me too.

5. I really love the helical locking mechanism of octopus bend, but unfortunately, it has come up before, while on no account, your inventiveness is being diminished. Knotsaver, tracks down its appearences at the following link(s). Might be the Helical Beauty, the reverse of walking beauty? ;)

Link : https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=5811.msg39347#msg39347

6. Last but not least, your original remarkable Migg bend. Xarax shed some light on this knot among others that prompted my interest. Based on two interlocking nipping loops that have the tedency to open in a helical sense, instead of closing tightly around themselves, i believe it resists to jamming. Keeping the eight shaped, double S, as the main body locking mechanism, you may produce several structures by implementing variant tail lockings. Fine work!!Bravo!!

                                                                Keep on processing..........

I am sure you have hidden some knotting diamonds in these folders. It would be nice to provide some coordinates/hints by highlighting some knots, unless you want us to take full delight in nosing them out by going solo :) :D
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Dan_Lehman

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2020, 02:25:26 AM »
Hi Siriuso
//...
6. Last but not least, your original remarkable Migg bend.
Xarax shed some light on this knot among others that prompted my interest.
Based on two interlocking nipping loops that have the tedency to open in a helical sense,
instead of closing tightly around themselves, i believe it resists to jamming.
Keeping the eight shaped, double S, as the main body locking mechanism,
you may produce several structures by implementing variant tail lockings.
Fine work!!Bravo!!
Thanks for your note of this knot (and my figuring out
what I needed to do to see it, eventually)!  I've gone
out into this *region* with motivation from #1425,
and where one loses --by chance of alteration more
than design, for me-- interlocking overhands for
same shapes but w/o the particular crossing, and,
yes, they can be so non-jamming.

And, beyond that, some of the SParts' curvatures
look very good --slightly of decreasing-radius shape.

(I have had my illustrations and then a tied knot
in opposite orientations (dare I say "handedness"?  :o )
and taken quite some time checking that they were
the same knot.  And in one case, some quite distinct
dressing of the "same" knot.)

So, naturally, one looks to see how the basic structure
might be incorporated into an eye knot (as though I
need yet more to illustrate to my heap --but I AM
making some progress).

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I am sure you have hidden some knotting diamonds in these folders.
It would be nice to provide some coordinates/hints by highlighting some knots,
unless you want us to take full delight in nosing them out by going solo :) :D
Once one has some several component structures
--some bight-collar & loop-collar options--, the multitude
of ways to combine them leads to overwhelming numbers
(IMO) !!  And in the practical world, one must ask
Where would <this knot> be helpful?!  So lovely,
the Migg, but I can't imagine it replacing the
ubiquitous fisherman's knot in the commercial-fishing
world.  Now, were one to need to join ropes briefly
for towing out a vehicle, it would be great.

Thanks,
--dl*
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siriuso

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #108 on: June 14, 2020, 10:40:00 AM »
Hi tsik_lestat and all,

1. Brick Bend - Thanks for telling me that it is the same as Cube Bend (B18). I will revise my folders.

2. Jamboree Bend - Yes it is the reverse of Cube Bend (B18).

3. Enhanced Harness Bend - It is already included in my folders and it is not the same as Axos Bend. Axos Bend starts with inter-locked loops, non-TIB. Xarax?s TTLME Knot, with inter-locked loops, looks like Axos Bend, but crossings are different.

4. Dagger Bend, Rigger?s Eight Bends and others - I am looking for more information and links which would help me to revise my folders.

5. Octopus Bend -Thanks to Knotsaver who gave the information. I will revise it as Tom?s Bend and include it to the known bends.

6. I hope we can share and work on more new bends. Though my classifications/tables are not met with some readers' desire, I wish they would be beneficial to some others.

7. More bends will come in a short time.


Happy Knotting
yChan

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #109 on: June 15, 2020, 02:22:45 AM »
Once one has some several component structures
--some bight-collar & loop-collar options--, the multitude
of ways to combine them leads to overwhelming numbers
(IMO) !!

Trully, the unlimited combinations of those components seem to be frustratingly endless, but it appears that Ychan, has done the work for us, by narrowing the bandwidth of those overwhelming numbers. I am sure he has saved only those that looked decent to him, with interesting locking mechanisms, ruling many of them out.

Speaking of new mechanisms, check out how ychan comes to three very decent, original Catfish, Teepoo, U bends ,starting from the same initial configuration (same start). They certainly worth tying and further analyzing.

3. Enhanced Harness Bend - It is already included in my folders and it is not the same as Axos Bend. Axos Bend starts with inter-locked loops, non-TIB. Xarax?s TTLME Knot, with inter-locked loops, looks like Axos Bend, but crossings are different.

Where is it? Is it the one i had included in my EHL topic? I can't locate it in your folders. I didn't say that your Axos is the same with X's TTLME inline eyeknot , yet they share some structural resemblance.

Is your Whirls bend the reverse of Xarax's Hugo bend A?

Link : https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4090.msg31980#msg31980

I am looking forward to your new stuff!Try to provide direct links to your new bends, in order to be avoided a labour intensive searching in your folders.
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siriuso

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #110 on: June 15, 2020, 08:12:58 AM »
tsik_lestat,

The Enhanced Harness Bend is included in my folders "Bends Classed....", the pdf files are TyPaRiTu(1) and TClassHairpins(1). The link is:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kGG0h_0QQ2eIxhEquySzNBUC0O9li1dv?usp=sharing

Whirls Bend is the reverse of Hugo Bend.

yChan


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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #111 on: June 15, 2020, 09:34:52 AM »
Hi all,

The folders are updated. Please enjoy and share.

Happy Knotting
yChan

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #112 on: June 24, 2020, 03:56:13 PM »
Hi all,

The folders are updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #113 on: July 02, 2020, 06:45:53 AM »
Hi all,

The folders are updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2020, 03:30:32 PM »
Hi all,

My folders are updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #115 on: July 25, 2020, 03:31:53 PM »
Hi all,

My folders have been updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #116 on: August 09, 2020, 10:34:04 AM »
Hi all,

My folders have been updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2020, 04:59:33 PM »
Hi all,

My folders have been updated. Please enjoy and share.

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Re: My Working Notes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
« Reply #118 on: September 25, 2020, 04:29:06 PM »
Hi all,

My folders have been updated. Please enjoy and share.

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yChan