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modolief

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Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« on: September 14, 2017, 02:10:14 AM »
Hi:  A few years ago I was on a farm in Nicaragua and recorded a one and a half minute video of a guy tying some basic farming knots.  He used rustic names that I don't have standard names for.  I'm wondering if someone could help me with names for these so that I can put links to Wikipedia articles, or other instructive links in the video description.  The video has received 29,000 views, so it seems it would be worth the effort.

The video is here:  https://youtu.be/pog6wQfPtNs

knotsaver

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Re: Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 10:53:59 AM »
Hi modolief and welcome,
the first knot is a Clove Hitch (ABoK #1670)
the second is a Standard Bowline (ABoK #1010)
the third is a Figure-Eight Timber Hitch (ABoK #1668)

Ciao,
s.

modolief

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Re: Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 05:51:06 PM »
T H A N K S ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

(And by the way, did I say thanks?  Thanks!)

Dan_Lehman

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Re: Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 09:53:16 PM »
Yes, the first one is the clove hitch
which you should NOT pretend is all so secure
as you show it (around a rather frictive object
in frictive rope) ; in slicker stuff such as is not
at all uncommon (a metal pole and poly rope),
there's a good chance that it will spill.
--nothing a 3rd half-hitch or stopper knot can't
prevent, though!

And for the 3rd, if you turn the tail around the main
line once and then do the "dogging" of it back
around the tree, you'll get some gripping of the turn
on the main line and can cinch the knot snug to the
tree (otherwise, a timber hitch is quite loose, one of
its benefits for ease of untying.

Btw, "fig.8 timber hitch..." :: I don't have the reference before
me, but it's more than a fig.8 in having more tucks (which
it should!) than putting in a mere '8' would (though that
can serve, esp. where the object's small).

 :)

knotsaver

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Re: Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 07:02:10 AM »
"fig.8 timber hitch..." :: but it's more than a fig.8 in having more tucks (which
it should!) than putting in a mere '8' would (though that
can serve,

yes, it's more than a fig.8 but the name, as I've understood it, is referred to the first turn around the main line: if it's "under" we obtain the (Standard) Timber Hitch, if it's over we obtain the Fig-8 Timber Hitch...(it does not depend on the number of turns).

Ciao,
s.

p.s. just for precision's sake, Ashley's drawings are accurate: #1666 is a Fig-8 Hitch and #1668 is a Fig-8  Timber Hitch (one more turn)...the third knot showed in the video is #1668.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 08:07:18 AM by knotsaver »

Dan_Lehman

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Re: Names of three farming knots for a video I uploaded to YouTube
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 08:52:55 PM »
yes, it's more than a fig.8 but the name, as I've understood it,
is referred to the first turn around the main line:
 if it's "under" we obtain the (Standard) Timber Hitch,
 if it's over we obtain the Fig-8 Timber Hitch...(it does not depend on the number of turns).

My rationale for favoring what you've called "F8"
is that by reaching over one is likely getting
the tuck farther from the SPart and more surely
trapped by the turn --else the initial tucking is
more decorative than effective.

 ;)