Author Topic: Do you know this double loop ? How is it called, or should be named ?  (Read 1661 times)

xarax

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   We have too many double loops, we do not need / want more ! :)
   However, when I had tied the double loop shown in the attached pictures ( following the most indirect path in the world, but that is not the issue here ), I couldn't remember if I have seen it or tied it before. For years now, I only tie the double loop shown in (1)( which has not directly communicating bights/eyes), so I have forgotten everything I had learned about other double loops in the past... 

1. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=5008.0
« Last Edit: August 20, 2015, 12:41:58 PM by xarax »
This is not a knot.

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Re: Do you know this double loop ? How is it called, or should be named ?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2015, 11:53:33 PM »
Hello xarax.

I have seen this called a lineman's double (eye) loop knot.
I personally do not like double loop (eye) knots where the loops "communicate". Fixed is better unless you have to that adjustability for load balancing or alignment(?). But, then they can move under load....


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Re: Do you know this double loop ? How is it called, or should be named ?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 12:47:56 AM »
   I have seen some pictures and videos in the web about the so-called "Double Lineman s loop" - which, geometrically / structurally, is a very different knot. Now, if one can do some "magic" transformation, and show how the one can be turned into the other ( without un-tucking and re-tucking the eyes of the loop, of course, because, if we allow such transformations, we can start from any TIB double loop and end to any other ! :) ), I would be happy to see it, because, if it exists, it is not obvious to me. Some people can "see" such transformations at once, and some others not - and I am afraid I belong to those who can not.

P.S. Noope ! Although it is incredible in how many different stable forms can each of those two loops be dressed, I have not managed to transform the one into the other. What am I missing ?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2015, 01:08:33 AM by xarax »
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Re: Do you know this double loop ? How is it called, or should be named ?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 02:32:35 AM »
Nooope, my bad.
I misidentified that double eye knot.
Sorry I didn't have the correct name for you.
I'll look into it and get back to you.

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Re: Do you know this double loop ? How is it called, or should be named ?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 10:13:46 AM »
   If you had a quick peep at the pictures of the "Tackled" hitches thread, you already know that it is the loop where one can consider that the "Tackled hitch" I propose is based on : if the two parts of the tackle "kiss" each other ( and the nub becomes compact, so there is no more slack in the mechanism which makes the knot ), we get the loop shown in this thread. Although what had really happened was the exact opposite : I had first figured out the simplest such two-wrap hitch, and then wondered about the identity of the nub of the loop at its core. Ruby said it is looking like the Spanish bowline with one more twist, and this made me wonder if there was a loop like this, or not.
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