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enhaut

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WBD bend
« on: November 10, 2014, 07:20:35 PM »
Maybe it has been done before.
So the Investigation part is in play.

This "wheel house" base bend when made in soft rope shows a shrinking and centered converging movement.
To dress it properly one would need to pull gently one tag end at a time.

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enhaut

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 01:29:59 AM »
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  Compare it to the less compact form of the Tweedledee bend ( M. A 24 )
First time a tye a Tweedledee; I had to see its "movement" in soft rope.
Once compressed it did'nt move a millimiter in my Dyneema.
For me all is good, its solid and lest "risky" compare to the WBD; nice look too; it's these kind of bend that need of good beta tester.

Knutern

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 07:37:22 PM »
First time I tye this WBD bend :)

However, looking at the picture w_double_solution.jpg, I miss the changes between bottom picture and the middle one. But the middle one itself is enough to learn how to tye it.

Thanks :)

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I add some color (fake green color by Gimp) to your secod image so it's more clear to see :)
« Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 07:59:47 PM by Knutern »
I'm aiming for knots that is secure, AND that is easy to untie.

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 10:16:55 PM »
Hi Knutern,

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I add some color (fake green color by Gimp) to your secod image so it's more clear to see

Well done, as long as it helps the understanding it's ok.

Does your handle Knutern is related to Berlin's little bear?

Knutern

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 11:30:58 PM »
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Does your handle Knutern is related to Berlin's little bear?
Um, no - I did not think about that little fuzzy thing when I choose the username. Guess he is bigger by now  :)

"Knute" is the norwegian word for knot, and "knutern" just make it a sort of name.
Knut is a legal name, Knute is not (and is also the word for knot), but Knutern is indeed not a name, nor a word.
I'm aiming for knots that is secure, AND that is easy to untie.

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2014, 01:34:13 AM »
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the less compact you show in this thread will slip, too.
Yes I think so too as I said; (risky)
I am trying to figure out the bend that allene showed at the start of  the tread you refer to;
For now I see an overhand crowning and reuniting what it seems to be an  2 anchor's hitch like structure. Got some digging to do.
Allene seems legit in his claim.
One good solution will surely leads to new discovereys.

Ruby

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2014, 10:51:36 AM »
the bend that allene showed is called the First Bend

http://l-36.com/no_slip_knot.php

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Re: WBD bend
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 01:10:27 PM »
@ Ruby

Thanks for the link;

 In there we learn that Allene makes it clear from the start that sometimes this bend slips. (no data)
Is it "good form" to test two bend altogether on the same rope?
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 01:13:50 PM by enhaut »