Author Topic: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?  (Read 24474 times)

SaltyCracker

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Re: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2012, 04:29:23 AM »
Also check out ABOK #1727, #1994, & 2073 - all the same knot and the one I'd been calling a backward/upside down tautline hitch. Ashley calls it a Jam Hitch, Adjustable Jam Hitch, and the "opposite of the Midshipman's Hitch." A bit bulkier than a buntline but adjusts and holds.

knot4u

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Re: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2012, 08:04:02 PM »
Also check out ABOK #1727, #1994, & 2073 - all the same knot and the one I'd been calling a backward/upside down tautline hitch. Ashley calls it a Jam Hitch, Adjustable Jam Hitch, and the "opposite of the Midshipman's Hitch." A bit bulkier than a buntline but adjusts and holds.

This has been a long issue that I keep mentioning, but nobody has responded. For a mid-air binder, you have been suggesting tie a backward Tautline (ABOK #1727). However, I have been tying a regular Tautline as a binder, except the Tautline is sliding in the opposite direction making the loop smaller. I can crank down on the tension because in order to tighten I pull the standing end in the opposite direction of the working end. In other words, I have more leverage. The final Half Hitch in the Tautline binder is held tight by the force of the coil, and the knot thereby remains secure. In fact, it's so secure that it really needs a slip in order to untie things. Again, I'm talking about a mid-air binder.

Do I need to provide a pic?
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scouterpete

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Re: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?
« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2013, 04:50:35 AM »
Before transistors , in the days of nob & tube electronics , the wiring bundles were gathered & tied.                  This is the reason waxed twine was developed . It is also why round nosed pliers were                   made in many sizes . (Retiring Ham radio operators, source for knot tying pliers? )             The packers knot & its relatives were replaced by zip ties.

Luca

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Re: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2013, 02:26:48 PM »
OK,but perhaps you should explain it also to the guys at NASA!( http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4028.0 )
                                                                                       
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Luca

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Re: what knot simulates zip tie behavior?
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2014, 11:25:32 PM »
Hi xarax,

If you did not like the zip-tie behavior binder based on the Locked Cow hitch, I think this you'll like even less ... and I certainly currently do not like: using it with strings of small diameter, I realized that it may become distorted, capsizing and jamming terribly, and the Locked Cow hitch version keeps more tension in my opinion.
If do you want to lose time the picture is here(tighten a little bit more the 8 component):

http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4885.msg31970#msg31970

Roll up for example a blanket,and pass it through the loop, then grab the tail end in the bottom right and pull it backwards towards the left  ...basically that is all!

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