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Dan_Lehman

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Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« on: January 29, 2014, 01:05:19 AM »
No, I've not tried this, myself, though I do cycle.
And I have enough discarded-by-others spare
tubes to burn!  And I'm musing about trying it.

[ur]http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/01/video/ask-a-mechanic-repairing-a-flat-without-a-patch_314524[/url]

 :o   ::)

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xarax

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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 02:50:41 AM »
   +1 ! ! !   :)

( I would nt be able to discover this simple solution in a thousand years !  So much for my ambition to learn all the possible simple knots...)
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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 01:22:12 PM »
Wooow! It's so simple! :)
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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 06:56:52 PM »
No, I've not tried this, myself, though I do cycle.
And I have enough discarded-by-others spare
tubes to burn!  And I'm musting about trying it.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/01/video/ask-a-mechanic-repairing-a-flat-without-a-patch_314524

 :o   ::)

 :D
;D 

I'm a bit surprised that the knot didn't take up too much material.
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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 06:57:58 PM »
hmmmmm, roadside object?  ;D

good trick to know though!

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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 08:57:59 PM »
Very cool, Dan, thanks for passing it along!  I wonder if the knot will hold under inflation if not constrained by the tire and wheel?

I once used the "stuff the tire with grass" trick on a mountain bike and it worked just barely well enough to get me a few miles back to my car.   It was hell on the tire, though.  Assuming this knot thing works as well as advertised, it is definitely a good trick to know (and teach!)  I'll be interested to hear if you test it out.

See also ABOK #2028.  (Assuming you're carrying a fairly long length of cord... :) )   Interestingly #2027, an improvised traction "chain" using something akin to Swedish furling, might work on modern bicycles with disc brakes and enough clearance around the forks/stays.

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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 06:05:57 AM »
   +1 ! ! !   :)

... this simple solution

Simplicity, yes; but Occam had to literally use his Razor!


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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 01:30:38 PM »
For knot nerds there might be a better knot for this situation than the reef knot?

The fisherman's knot might hold the air better in the tube. It's also less bulky, and probably offers a less bumpy ride.

The water knot is meant for webbing, and might work well for a tube as well?

xarax

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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 04:22:19 PM »
...there might be a better knot for this situation than the reef knot.
The fisherman's knot might hold the air better in the tube. It's also less bulky, and probably offers a less bumpy ride.

  We can also less bulky bends than the single Fisherman s knot. What s about the Double Harness bend - or even the wonderful Tumbling Thief knot (1) ? I would be glad if this beauty would be forced to do some hard practical work !  :)

1. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=3716
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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 11:22:03 PM »
For knot nerds there might be a better knot for this situation than the reef knot?

The fisherman's knot might hold the air better in the tube. It's also less bulky, and probably offers a less bumpy ride.

The water knot is meant for webbing, and might work well for a tube as well?
I'm impressed that you can think that any knot
is less bulky than the briefest of them, the
squaREef / square / reef knot --which is the
joining of two U-turns only!!?

The fisherman's knot was mistakenly described by
Ashley as bulky, but it really isn't, and has the nice
characteristic of being *well-rounded*; but, still,
the squaREef only differs in its being less so
"well-rounded" by a loss of material --which might
be seen as making it somewhat irregular, but not
more bulky.


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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2014, 12:26:04 AM »
Seems to me that the Beer knot would be a natural for this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_knot

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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2014, 12:47:46 AM »
the Beer knot would be a natural for this...

  This, I could had imagined it... in a thousand years, of course !  :)
  Now, the overhand stopper knot tied on the double-skin part of the tube would be even more bulky than the Fisherman s knot, I reckon...
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Re: Squaring the Circle (wheel :o) !
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2014, 12:52:45 AM »
the Beer knot would be a natural for this...

  This, I could had imagined it... in a thousand years, of course !  :)
  Now, the overhand stopper knot tied on the double-skin part of the tube would be even more bulky than the Fisherman s knot, I reckon...

In a thousand years there will be no wheels.  :)
And so there'll be no ugly, having to tuck into the tire and rim, tails sticking out.  ;)

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