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knot4u

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Knot in Logo
« on: June 05, 2010, 06:07:00 AM »
The answer is probably somewhere on this site, but I can't find it.

What kind of knot is that in the logo to this site?
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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 02:50:00 PM »
Hi knot4u
The 'knot' used as the IGKT logo has no beginning or end and is only a representation. Its similar to an Ocean-Plait Mat based upon simple overhand knots. Its reminiscent of a Carrick Bend followed through.
Hope this helps. phiz

knot4u

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2010, 06:02:38 PM »
OK, I see the Carrick Bend in it, thanks.

I have a hard time looking at representations and seeing the knot.  For example, I didn't see that the trefoil knot is a representation of the overhand knot until I was told so.

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 07:18:34 PM »
The answer is probably somewhere on this site, but I can't find it.

What kind of knot is that in the logo to this site?


I've a political answer:  the wrong knot!

The IGKT's logo should be a SmitHunter's Bend -- i.e., the knot
that joined knotters from the 4 compass points of the world
(the knot's standing parts & ends nicely able to be oriented E-W-N-S).
Ropes should appropriately be laid & braided, signifying old & new,
historical & future knotting.

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knot4u

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 07:37:04 PM »
The answer is probably somewhere on this site, but I can't find it.

What kind of knot is that in the logo to this site?


I've a political answer:  the wrong knot!

The IGKT's logo should be a SmitHunter's Bend -- i.e., the knot
that joined knotters from the 4 compass points of the world
(the knot's standing parts & ends nicely able to be oriented E-W-N-S).
Ropes should appropriately be laid & braided, signifying old & new,
historical & future knotting.

--dl*
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OK, a picture says a thousand words.  Please post a pic or a link.

Fairlead

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 09:23:47 PM »
The Guild Logo is a Flat Turk's Head - chosen because is is both practical and decorative

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 05:20:56 AM »
I have always looked at the logo as a 3 Lead x 4 Bight Turks Head doubled, and laid flat.  This knot can be tied as a Carrick Bend with the ends followed through.  Mechanically identical, it is the method of tying the knot that differntiates it between a Turks Head or Carrick Bend.  Seeing as the logo is a graphic representaton of a knot and was not actually tied, perhaps we shouls ask the person or persons who selected it as the logo and ask them what they where trying to represent.

Pat

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 06:56:44 AM »
Pat,  You need to talk to Liz Pawson then - as it was she who came up with the idea of a flat TH representing both practical and decorative knotting.

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 08:53:39 AM »
as it was she who came up with the idea of a flat TH representing both practical and decorative knotting...... do you answer the question by accident. 

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 10:42:59 PM »
No Oldpete - from 'MUCH ADO ABOUT KNOTTING'  A history of the International Guild of Knot Tyers - The First Ten Years by Geoffrey Budworth.
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Liz Pawson's Turk's Head logo was, however a sensible element; and it was kept in the splendid later design (KM19 - April 1987) by Stuart Grainger.  The knot was comparatively simple, but a sign of the Guild's commitment to both practical and decorative knotting. 
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Is that good enough for you to believe?

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Re: Knot in Logo
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 01:09:55 AM »
What I was saying was you said Liz came up with the turks head, which it clearly is, a flat turks head it just also happens to be the form of the 'Carrick Mat'  So it could be either, but if Liz designed as a flat turks head then the answer to the original question is found.