Would this knot really give much more security than say a double bowline with a DOH stopper? This just seems way to complicated unless you're one of us knot tyers.
To my surprise, I've more than once read of the
strangle knot(aka "DOH stopper") tie-off coming untied (!). In one case, possibly
with knot-against-wall movements up a crack? --and, we might ask,
oddly w/o notice of the then flapping-about untied tail!?
THIS
mirrored bowline should retain its form more surely
than the one you suggest, which doesn't so much prevent
the SPart from feeding into the knot and loosening it (even
w/stopper secure, unless you've *Yosemite'd* the tail and
tied
strangle'd the SPart snug to the nub). But, many
things have been tried, and many have worked pretty well.
I was looking for the practical application.
With this monster (as the OP likes to say) taking up around 64 rope diameters ...
How did you measure it? --something I did for some knots
way back, w/tedious thread or rubber-banding to mark the
points of exit from the "nub". It's a nice datum to attach
to knots, possibly with some sort of other indicator that
would say whether the knot could be efficiently tied, or if
it needed beaucoup material
to tie, even if it consumed
less in the nub once done. (Maybe if I can find that note paper
on which I've some list of knots so measured, I can post it
and we can supplement it bit by bit for other knots (and
taking some 2nd-appraisals in various materials!).)
But, really, being on the order of the common
fig.8,
and being something one would tie in anticipation of
taking a lot of falls --tying once, at the start of a climb,
or working of some "problem"--, it's worth the minimal
bother to be able to UNtie it when done --vs. having
to hammer a jammed knot into submission. (YMMV with
how "lightly" you fall --the 110# lass vs. the 220# lunk.)
.:. Think "RISK architecture" --a computer term indicating
processor design that favored doing many/repeated simple
tasks quickly vs. complicated/specialized ones, and which
seemed to rule the day in that. In knotting, what might
be "complicated" in parts/crossings/ ... could yet be pretty
quickly & simply wrought by means of easy tying actions.
Here, IF one understands the working of a *bowline*
(we won't hold one to be able
to define that!
),
it should be no big deal to understand the back'n'forth
extension to a commonly known (
girth/cow hitch) base
--yes, it'll take (just) that much longer, but it's not a big
deal to do. (The *slop* of it all --what can be, sans some
not inconsiderable time to dress-- might be offputting.)
--dl*
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