"Is it *new*?"
What's "new" 2 U ?
I'll guess that it's not appeared in literature, but who can have searched all that
"literature" encompasses?! Has anyone ever previously tied it?! Again, quite an
impossible thing to say.
It's practically new, to me.
Hi Scott,
Rereading the posts this AM I sure hope you can post a drawing or photo or two.
Re-reading my description, I'm sure that you can work it out: you have a left
hand, last time I looked; you know the end from the SPart; you know how to
tie a Stevedore stopper, etc.--the instructions are as clear as a picture would be
(and maybe more so, except by a series of step-by-step images)! Just get your dang
hands off of the keyboard sending plaintive notes demanding images!
Also I am puzzled where this stopper will fit in the progression of existing stoppers. Start with an ovdrhand knot as the smallest and most primitive,...
AND--importantly(!!)--the only one that can be tied &
set snug against something!.. next a figure 8 stopper for a larger diamater and more easily untied stopper,
I don't give it much edge on the former--nil, in practical terms.
then the stevedore (aka longshoreman) stopper for hardly more bulk than the fig 8 but of long established utility,
Again, not so much extra bulk at its
stopper face, but more material & heft.
As for "longshoreman" & "long established", can you justify this assertion?
--as it's contrary CLDay's credit of the name to the COMPANY "Stevedore" who
made/sold ropes, and NOT to the supposed users of the same name. Again,
overlooked for this knot is that its turns provide extra grip to the SPart and
hence security when slack--preventing loosening, i.e. (unlike the preceding two).
then ... Ashley's stopper... which bulks more diameter than the previous 4 and finally Brion Toss's Sink Stopper.
Ashley's has a wonderful
face, which needs to be set well tight at the point
where the Overhand noose is formed, before drawing that down upon the end.
The Sink Stopper is more a joke than any improvement or enlargement, as the
meander the end takes to be nipped makes it weak against pressure. For a truly
grande stopper, one can tie Ashley's using a bight (hence, doubled material),
with appropriate deviation--i.e., begin the doubling/twin parts at the Overhand
component. Unlike Ashley's tying, this knot can be set well tight (tightening
the twin'd Overhand) on tying, with no need for all that "working".
I've seen many stoppers in commercial-fishing gear, where presumably an Overhand
is seconded by another Overhand/half-hitch tying, and which can capsize into
different forms (e.g., into a sort of Reef or into 2HHitches around air); the point
seems to be both bulk & security--longterm--; sometimes a hog ring enforces
the latter. I'm disappointed and a bit surprised to NOT see Ashley's stopper,
which afterall has appeared in print, and is quite a quick thing to tie; but the
proper tying method hasn't been described, insofar as I've seen, and maybe that
has led folks to misjudge the knot's qualities (though I'd think not). Really,
to have quick-tying, security, AND broad face, with such economy of material,
recommends the knot to usage, and yet ... ?!
Where would you suggest "Scotts Stopper" fits in the progression? Since I am still unable to follow the description (my fault as ...
You're just tired and not trying (or stargazing)!
Scott's Stopper makes for a large, oblong knot, more easily untied than most,
I think; more tedious to tie, dress, & set, too, alas. And I prefer the dressing
that gets the SPart to come out mid-turns (just by rather crudely overlaying it
at the desired position).
Cheers,
--dl*
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