... whipped with insurance like yours because the kids on board are not nearly as thoughtful as Dan and his referenced fishermen are.
?! No fishermen were cited re whippings, for mostly I don't
find their stuff whipped, other than w/black electrical (or ?)
tape --which seems to work well. Sometimes there is a steel
hog ring, and once I found what I at first thought was a
constrictor but then saw was a (darn tightly set)
clove
hitch extended with (I think) one
half-hitch. --in cord
like mason line around mere quarter-inch line (!).
As for their thoughtfulness, hmmmm, let's not bank on that.
As for kids' making mischief, there are other "whippings" to redress
that!
Dan, I respect your challenge - I will instruct one of our volunteers to tie one of your (albeit aesthetically ugly) multiple strangle knots + sailor's whipping noted using mono-filament nylon fishing line and another using mason line, both using pliers, and we will report back on how long each lasts. BTW Dan, your Reply #6 had several (25+?) whippings noted in your photos, and it was difficult to sort out exactly what it was among your four photographs you were recommending, so thanks for simplifying your post - clarity rules!
Ooops, yes, my reference should be to the last two images,
of the 5/8" blue CoEx PP/PE, like-sized white 12-strand nylon(?),
and --in one pic-- yellow arborist rope.
"Aesthetically ugly"
Really, the monofilament whipping, esp.,
looks like a very clean, neat, heat-sealed binding. You must be
referring to the other things, which ... , well, "beauty's in the eye
of the beholder" --YMMV on exact form & appearance, there (I'm
in part having some play with the spiral binding technique used
with binding cord, taking advantage of the very thin-flat material,
where overwraps accumulate little bulk). Hey, it's colorful! (This
is the commonly found PP(?) "baling twine" fiber. Its
lack of
stretch can be an issue if the whipping ever gets some slack. But
it's nice to put what otherwise was litter/trash to some use, and
being so thin/small but w/strength it can work well on whipping
really small stuff.)
So, the
multiple-strangle knot + sailor's whipping finish (note
the hyphen) has these needs/aspects, to be clear:
0) My
"multiple-strangle" knot usually has TWO embedded twists,
not the usual one (and this affects how many overwraps are best for
extending sufficient to cover these); but one can be briefer.
1) The
strangle knot will be tightened
post-tying, rather
than requiring wraps to be put on under desired tension
--this is a nice feature, with acceptably slick whipping material.
2) The use of a
slipped (multiple-) strangle is done so as not
to have much waste of material --one sets the tail short, maybe with
a stopper for added security of purchase for tightening, and the
builds the knot, finishing with a bight so as to not yet need to cut
anything.
3) Given this finishing bight, the sailor's whipping is applied with it,
nicely locking off one end of the strangle, which should be sufficient
to keep that knot from loosening, ever.
4) I use forceps for a nip-&-wrap purchase of the stoppered (maybe)
short end in opposition to an amply sized bight end opposite (which
could tie a pile hitch onto something for tightening); one might use
instead a short cord sling girth-hitched to (or sheet bent by) the tail
5) Working with
short ropes, I typically orient the
strangle such that
the short end is at the whipped rope's end, bight end (& sailor's whipping)
towards the rest of the rope --but I can haul the entire line through each
wrap of the sailor's whipping, which is impractical on a long line;
one can make the finishing bight very large and enable it to wrap around
your stock of whipping twine,
or one can reverse the overall orientation and have the sailor's whipping
part end-wards where forming it is straightforwards (as in
ABoK #3443).
6) The pliers then serve to help distribute tension throughout the
strangle--from the initially very tight ends of the wrapping coil inwards (and it
might be that some of the apparent equalizing of coil tension comes
from simply loosing some tension out the ends --but, trust me, those
whippings I've shown are darn tight! This function could be met by
rolling or pounding the knot with something hard.
For mason line, I find 5 wraps perhaps ideal, 4 just enough, 6 fine,
and more than that; with the monofilament shown (op cit), it is more
like 8-7-9/10, the embedded twist seeming to bend with smaller helix
angle (hmmm, seems some confusion re definitions of this ; I mean
LESS curvature, angle of helix to axis parallel to rope). One way to
go larger in whipping material is to go *double* --use the material
in twin form, rather than getting something bigger (which is often
done in commercial-fishing binding work); this also keeps the
radius-wise profile small --i.e., it stays close to the rope, *spreading*
but not *bulging*, so to speak. (My mason line is laid nylon, and
if I unlay it and use twin strands, I have still much strength but less
*bulge* off of the whipped line. (I've seldom done this, though.))
In any case, the two cut-of whipping tails are roughly adjacent,
at the same end/side of the binding --nice when this is running
out amid the rope's fibres, given my usual (and shown) orientation.
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Back to aesthetics, if one likes that strands-crossing-wraps look,
it can be achieved by pulling some of the whipped rope's fibers
back over the strangle part, tucking beneath the wraps of the
sailor's-whipping closure (hauled tight prior to final tightening
of the whipping finish), and you can make whatever pattern
you fancy, within constraints of this binding (and, with the
orientation that has the
sailor's whipping finish away from
the rope end). And THIS ensures that the whipping cannot
be pulled off of the end of the rope, for one! --something
of use in small stuff where one's surface area of the whipping
is reduced, and of necessity the whipping material must be
smaller & weaker & thus tightened with less force.
And one can think of other ways to use the bight-end of the
slipped strangle for creative whipping, such as pulling it
through the rope and making then a wrap before hauling it
tight, also to prevent the whipping being forcibly slid off of
the end. ... possibilities ...
--dl*
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