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James Petersen

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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2014, 09:15:42 AM »
TIB method of this variation.

James Petersen

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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2014, 09:40:37 AM »
And a variation based on the strangle/gleipnir knots. Not TIB, but it seems to lay more nicely when tightened.

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xarax

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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2014, 01:11:24 PM »
   I had NEVER tied it like this - and I think I had never even asked myself if it is TIB or not !  :)
   The second ( "Streipnir" ) variation should be variation B shown at Replies #26, #27 (1)(2), but I tell it without tying it - because I believe there are no other, third variation, so I just apply the law of the excluded middle/third... :)

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle

1. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=2075.msg30229#msg30229
2. http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=2075.msg30230#msg30230
« Last Edit: December 15, 2014, 01:13:29 PM by xarax »
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James Petersen

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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2014, 02:40:17 PM »
Xarax, I went back to re-examine your photos and I once again came to the inevitable conclusion: you are a porknotgrapher par-excellence! Yours is the best knot porn I have ever seen.   :)

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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2014, 02:47:05 PM »
   Comments and pictures about the Gleipnir variations based on the ( TIB) Clove hitch, but also on the ( not-TIB) single and double overhand knot ( Strangle ) , at :
   http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4884.msg31968#msg31968
   http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4818.0
   http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=5014.0
This is not a knot.

xarax

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Gleipnir Clove hitch
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2015, 06:15:14 PM »
   I like the sure, almost self-complacence :) way this rock-solid tight hitch "sits" on the surface of the pole... Although it is not TIB ( as the "similar", yet TIB Bull Clove hitch is ), its perfect symmetry, its tightness and its conceptual simplicity make it an interesting knot. How one can untie this thing ? With great difficulty ! :)  If you plan to tighten it as much as you can, better tie it near one end of the pole, so you can slide it, and pull it out.
   The interesting reader will notice that here I have not crossed the lines into the "nipping tube", as I did in the case of the "simple hitch a la Gleipnir" - the Clove "neck", by itself, is so tight, that this precaution ( which, in a sense, transforms the original Gleipnir into a Gleipnir X - X=crossed tails ) is not required. In this knot, I believe it pays more, regarding its tightness and security, to be able to pull its ends more easily ( so, to refrain from twisting them around each other inside the "nipping tube" ), than to increase the friction between them even more, in order to secure their "locking": the Clove hitch "lock", wrapped around compressible, elastic structures, as the ropes are, provides all the security we need - and then some !
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Re: A simple hitch "a la Gleipnir "
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2015, 12:16:58 PM »
   Passing the ends of the Clove hitch the other way, its "spine" is oriented perpendicularly to the axis of the pole, and the nub becomes a little more elongated.
   I believe I prefer the form shown in the previous post - but which will be the optimum configuration will depend on the relative diameters of the rope and the pole.
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