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Erickson

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The McLoughlin
« on: March 29, 2010, 11:36:17 PM »
This is the knot I posted earlier which I am now calling the "McLoughlin" hitch. Camp Mcloughlin is the Boy Scout camp where I was teaching knot tying when I first tied it.

It is an adjustable loop hitch like the taut-line (midshipman's) hitch. However, unlike the taut-line, it holds its form well when unloaded and works at obtuse angles (can even be used for binding).

I have used it with most cordage (all types I have access to) from dental floss to sisal and found it, once properly dressed, to hold better than the taut-line in every case. The only cordage I cannot verify is some extremly crappy, limp, smooth as silk, no-name poly that neither held onto, but the taut-line did colapse into a nasty mess that finaly caught and held (but was no more adjustable than a Rosendahl afterward).

So, I know most of you have already dismissed this knot, but I wanted to give it a name before I let it die in peace.

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 09:35:26 PM »
Thanks for the PDF.

Regardless of popular opinion, any tie, new or not, is useful to have. Never know when it might turn out to be the best option. Thanks for the contribution.

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 10:43:04 PM »
A simple figure eight noose and this is a new knot?
Just a beginner, but I'm surprised.

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 06:14:21 AM »
A simple figure eight noose and this is a new knot?
Just a beginner, but I'm surprised.

And you're confused:  please have a closer  L ::) K !

 ;)

But it's not intended to be a noose, but an adjustable fixed eye;
I have my doubts on that, but material & force matter -- YMMV.

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 07:46:46 PM »
This knot is almost identical to the Figure of Eight NOOSE described on page 56 of Budworth's Illustrated Encyclopedia of Knots, but slightly different.  "Clifford Ashley, in his monumental Book of Knots awards this one (Figure of Eight Noose) a five-pointed star to signify that, of all the simple nooses, he rated it Best for the Purpose."

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 05:31:33 AM »
I have tried both the figure eight noose (ABOK #1116) and your McLaughlin Hitch and, so far, found the following:

They are not alike at all
The McLaughlin is difficult to adjust in wet or damp line and is especially hard to move for adjustment in polyester line
The figure eight noose is prone to slipping (it is supposed to) and would make a useless tent hitch
Neither one is good (much twisting and collapse) in twisted line or laid line (same thing, different name) and the McLaughlin is prone to jamming in 3-strand with no further movement - not a good idea for adjusting
As with all knots/hitches etc - the phrase 'once properly dressed' has different meanings for different people - I think I must not have dressed it properly - what is the secret and how is it possible to load a loop at an obtuse angle?

The McLaughlin hitch is interesting and I think that my results warrant more testing, as you appear to have found it useful for camping.  I'll let you know what else I find,

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 07:48:48 AM »
This knot is almost identical to the Figure of Eight NOOSE ...

But it is not a Fig.8 -- that part of the knot (i.e., what's tied around
the SPart) isn't itself a knot at all (it evaporates, absent the SPart).
And the intent is to use this knot as a fixed eyeknot -- fixed by
pulling on the end & end-side eye leg to put a severe enough
bend into the SPart to prevent slippage of the knotted part
along the SPart.  One could try this with the Constrictor, e.g.,
vice this pseudo-8.

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Re: The McLoughlin
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 08:43:06 AM »
Regardless of popular opinion, any tie, new or not, is useful to have. Never know when it might turn out to be the best option. Thanks for the contribution.
+1
Except that I myself might substitute "good" for "useful".  I would suggest that not all new knots are useful knots.  Though I think this one is definitely potentially useful.

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« Last Edit: April 08, 2010, 08:47:29 AM by SpitfireTriple »