To my prior definitions, I see that some cases are left out:
1) 2 PoFM with all ends loaded:
net-knot ;
2) 1 PoFm with both ends loaded:
knob3) 1 PoFm & object w/both ends loaded:
running binder hitch?The first is fundamental, and the "2 PoFm" is taken to mean "in effect",
regardless of whether tracing back the material in a net finds that in fact it's
one continuous PoFm--at the point of the knot, it's effectively two. (Same
consideration applies to e.g. a rockclimber's sling, single PoFM end's joined.)
The 2nd exists as marker knots. In a gym climbing rope (hand & foot use),
mid-line knots would be loaded this way, then qua
stoppers when the climber
bore upon them, and ultimately rather unloaded.
The 3rd case exists in e.g. the binding of nets & headlines, cord run in spiral
wrap around & around and into binding knots, w/tension on the ends.
(I've a sense of "running" that takes the perspective of the material; this clashes
with e.g. "Running Bwl" where one means that the loopknot's eye runs along
the rope to make a noose structure. Frankly, this is not a function of the Bwl,
of the knot, but of a
rope structure built w/knots.)
SquareRigger stated:
A silk scarf or sarong tied around a comely waist is a knot, but the person is not. Does that help?
And it does & does not; i.e., it shows a puzzle for the definitions.
If the knot in question for this sash is a Square/Reef, I'd say that the object was
involved (and knot a
binder) on the initial "throw" (medical tying term),
as the pressure against the object helped hold the tension (one hopes); but on
the finishing throw, making the Square/Reef, one has tied a
bend!
--which happens to hold some tension of a wrap of rope around an object.
Similarly, although "Round Turn & 2 Half-Hitches" is a common "hitch",
I now prefer to see it as a noose structure with a Clove H.. "noose hitch"
might be a good term for such common things (Scaffold knot, e.g.).
The so-called "Midshipman's Hitch" is generally regarded as a fixed loop (or one
that is adjustable between fixed points); I see it as a "noose", because it has
the same structure of a knot around the line. (Behavior? --well, the same
knot can change with material & force! Hence my preference.)
So, ... a fuzzy boundary?!
--dl*
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Derek & SquareRigger: Perhaps it is best if YOU each copy your full posts
from the new/short thread into this one, to keep in one place (even though
I've replied to each--I can amend my posts to point forwards ... ).
