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alpineer

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Another Novel Way To Tie "ABK"
« on: February 23, 2009, 05:17:58 AM »
Threads are pretty quiet, so here's another interesting way to tie the Alpine Butterfly Knot which requires an absolute minimum of hand movement:

1.Take a simple Turn on the hand and hook the Working line back over the thumb. 2.Reach between the hanging lines and draw the bottom part of the loop on the hand back through them forming a Bight. Fold the line which is hooked on the thumb toward the other lines by turning the thumb and fingers of that hand upside down. The hanging lines are now crossing each other with the Bight running underneath. Note that Steps 2&3 can be done simultaneously. Now bring the Bight up and pass it to the opposite hand and take it through the hole above the Crossing Part. Dress and set the Knot.

Dan_Lehman

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Re: Another Novel Way To Tie "ABK"
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 07:43:47 PM »
This loses me almost immediately:  whats a "turn"?  I think that for effective
directions, at least, we should give degrees --e.g., "a 180deg turn".
And despite the presence of further instructions (which if understood might
iron out ambiguities preceding them), I remain lost.
 ???

You might reiterate this and be hand-specific, for the purposes of clarity ,
allowing a hand-neutral wording to come later; it is probably easier to do
it with specific references.

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alpineer

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Re: Another Novel Way To Tie "ABK"
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 05:04:47 AM »
This loses me almost immediately:  whats a "turn"?  I think that for effective
directions, at least, we should give degrees --e.g., "a 180deg turn".
And despite the presence of further instructions (which if understood might
iron out ambiguities preceding them), I remain lost.
 ???

You might reiterate this and be hand-specific, for the purposes of clarity ,
allowing a hand-neutral wording to come later; it is probably easier to do
it with specific references.

--dl*
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Fair enough Dan,

Rather than taking a complete Roundturn on the left hand(if you're right handed), at the 360o position hook the working line back across the top of the left hand thumb. This will create an obvious and wide space between the two hanging lines for you to put your right hand through in order to draw the loop on you're left hand back through the hanging lines. The next step involves turning the left hand upside-down and folding the WINGS of the butterfly closed to form the hole with the two hanging lines now crossing themselves.