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Mrs Glenys Chew

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Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« on: May 12, 2008, 10:43:58 PM »
Dear All

Following Diana's post about swings, I was trying to find the smuggle hitch on the net.  I failed - but amongst the interesting links that did appear, I got this one for nautical dvd's, with a knot tying instruction dvd near the end of the page.

http://www.sea-tvproductions.com/catalog.html

Please can anyone direct me to instructions for the smuggle hitch, or a more well-known name for it, perhaps?


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Glenys
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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 10:59:13 PM »
Hi Glenys,

Is this what you are looking for?

http://books.google.com/books?id=GbeV0iKl8EgC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=snuggle+hitch&source=web&ots=ItyJbKEH_n&sig=4n4dbM6prXcas7t-8A0eaFfmN8s&hl=en

It's called a snuggle hitch, which may account for your difficulty finding it...

SR

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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 05:53:01 AM »
re:  "sMuggle hitch"

I think that Glenys is trying to combine two threads in one--swing tying and pirate knots!

 ;D :D ::)

Mrs Glenys Chew

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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 07:18:51 AM »
What - and none of you creative gentlefolk have invented me a smuggler's hitch? Quick to tie, quick to release, and easily disguised as something else when the Revenuers show up?

tsk, tsk...


Thanks for the link, SR, I'll look it up when I get back.

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Glenys
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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 01:09:42 PM »
i think SR shows kind of a Constrictor with a Turn before the final tuck of the Bitter end under the Standing Part.  So would seem even more secure by less tension in the Bitter end and same in trapping Standing Part, and still  the ends stabilized squarely.

i like for general purposes, where shown in the Snuggle's picture #1 almost makes a Clove; i take that path; except don't follow the arrow.  Instead of following the arrow under, take it over, then tuck Bitter immediately into the same final resting place as a Constrictor, or as shown in this picture set for the Snuggle.  This gives the same immediate trapping of the Standing Part force on top of the low tension Bitter end to secure, and the same center stabilized position of both ends.  Easier to untie than Constrictor, less line and fumbling than Snuggle as shown; and very secure.  Any of the 3 will take load well from either end/both; but only the Constrictor is truly symmetrical as i see it.

i wonder if a Double Constrictor would be more secure than this Snuggle form?  Each adds a Turn to a Constrictor, but in different ways.

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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 01:48:50 PM »
When I tried tying Nautile's (AKA Charles Hamel) swing knot, I found it to be very slippery and prone to pull right through -  especially if the loaded end were to be working back and forth as would be the case with a swing.

I mentioned this to Charles and he made the point that he believes the knot to be ca 18th / 19th century and therefore would have likely have been tied in hemp against wood, so friction would have been much higher than modern cordage might supply.

He also noted that Ashley records the knot as #1693 who in turn records it as " A Clove hitch' with  a turn and a tuck.

Ashley goes on to note of the knot "The result is a hitch that is firm, strong, secure and easily untied once the load has been removed."

Derek

Mrs Glenys Chew

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Re: Smuggle Hitch & DVD link
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 10:40:15 PM »
Thank you all very much - I'm fond of the constrictor hitch, and will go away and see what I can make of these helpful instructions.

 :)

Glenys
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