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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #135 on: October 29, 2010, 08:42:21 AM »
I like this too - bird seems to me to be a reincarnated knotter casting a critical eye and wishing it had the fingers to do better!

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #136 on: November 11, 2010, 09:12:49 PM »
Here are some views of the working parts of lobster fishing:

1. The pot-hauler area aboard.  (I don't know if the line is let drop
into the seemingly built-for-just-that hold ; clearly, the attached
pots don't go there but to be harvested, re-baited, and set for
re-dropping at the stern, all the while joined to the groundline.)

2. A closer look at the pot-hauler wheels; the re-direction pulley
is on a swivel to be set out for work, in & secured otherwise.
(The support post & arm are not in good view here, just the big
pulley wheel.)

3. A close-up and *ropes-eye* perspective of the lower pot-hauler
wheels --small, lower feed wheel and the angled/beveled squeeze-grip
hauling wheel with its deep pointed line-extractor on the bottom side.

4. Here's a pot that has been hauled hard!  Maybe the main issue with
re-use isn't its function to trap, but it's geometry to be anywhere lower
in a stack for deployment (with its dented/shortened corner).  And note
the cordage structures :  clove hitches w/half-hitched-&-tucked ends ;
Overhand mid-line eyeknot (to be tied to by snood w/sheet bend w/tucked
end).

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #137 on: December 13, 2010, 11:54:48 AM »
I pass this tree ever so often. But it didn't occur to me to photograph it until recently. It is "S-laid".

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #138 on: December 13, 2010, 12:02:13 PM »
I don't know whether it's true, but I have heard they have the opposite "lay" in the southern hemisphere. Maybe roo could enlighten us?
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #139 on: December 13, 2010, 03:11:20 PM »
I pass this tree ever so often. But it didn't occur to me to photograph it until recently. It is "S-laid".

Might also be a (not fully tightened) multi-strand MWK ready to be crowned
Interesting find.

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2010, 03:31:33 AM »
Here are some recent finds:

1. a dubious multi-overhand mooring hitch (it would at
least help to have the end tucked between the dogging
of tail around SPart);

2. a better mooring, w/half-hitches & round turn;

3. and some fisherman's knots in lobster-fishing groundline
(of the floating sort, which is either used at a non-offending
season (vis-a-vis the right whale) or in violation of rules to
use sinking or "neutrally buoyant" line --not sure of wording);
note that they are of both "concordant" & "discordant" orientation
(overhand abutting overhand ) --tied by the same, or different person?!

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #141 on: December 22, 2010, 07:20:22 PM »
Just putting in view here, as I put in postscript to my post #96
of 2010-02-15th --notice of other knots in the wild !

2010-12-22 postscript :  More (& repeated) photos and discussion
of the "reverse groundline hitch" can be found in a separate thread:
http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=2265.0


 :)
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #142 on: March 03, 2011, 11:17:36 AM »
A Bowline with added security ?


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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #143 on: March 20, 2011, 12:14:22 AM »
In response to some discussion elsewhere about stopper knots,
here are some photos of knots found in one (?) commercial
fisher's conch-pot rigging --mostly to stop against foam floats,
but in one case an overhand stopper is shown used as part
of the pot bridle's hitch to the pot (with tail "hog-ringed"
stapled to S.Part --and I've seen such a hitch used to bend
to a steel line clip).

(Port Norris is adjacent to Bivalve, a surviving crabbing and
oystering (by use of cages) place along the Delaware Bay/River,
near Bridgeton.  Ashley (pp.6-7) tells of a visit there, departing
the (very tortuous) Cohansey River from Bridgeton and sailing
down to Bivalve, in a discussion coincidentally about stoppers.
It remains a fertile ground for finding knotty things, illusory
or actual --depends on the eye of the beholder! )

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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2011, 09:37:19 PM »
Today I made a some pictures of old barge, where I found old ropes, rest of knots etc. The pictures (not all - first part, today) were uploaded to galleries on my facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/fbx/?set=a.180137795372009.64325.100001273706937

Please enjoy.

The barge was found in the 50's last century, but few weeks ago was rise from the bottom of the Oder river in Szczecin.

brgds

Marcin, Takler

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The album added fully now
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2011, 12:16:27 AM »
   A not-so-beautiful knot, in such-a-beautiful harbour...Well, we should not expect everything to be of the same quality at the same time, should we ? :)
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2011, 08:53:21 AM »
^It looks like Three Half Hitches came loose, which could happen over time and with jostling.
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2011, 11:08:08 AM »
It looks like Three Half Hitches came loose, which could happen over time and with jostling.

   AND the round turn around the large diameter bollard is also questionable, in such a use and material.
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2011, 07:34:18 PM »
It looks like Three Half Hitches came loose, which could happen over time and with jostling.

   AND the round turn around the large diameter bollard is also questionable, in such a use and material.

OK, great...What would you have tied?  Also, without using hindsight, why is a Round Turn and Three Half Hitches inherently wrong here?
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Re: Knots **In The Wild**
« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2011, 11:32:49 PM »
   The (additional) round turn around a bollard of such a large diameter, with this material, means huge friction at the wrong place. It only reveals a naive - but mistaken - intention to, somehow, "secure" a mooring knot...
   However, doing this, the knot s nub can not move freely around the bollard, following the movement of the ship s hawsehole or bitt, and the tension on the eye leg of standing part can not be trasferred to the second leg, that with the half hitches. So the half hitches will get loose, sooner or later, because they are not loaded at all times, as they should.
   There are many better ways to tie a mooring knot. I always prefer some "fancy" secure form of the bowline - just for show off, because the simple bowline is always secure a 100% for such use and material. 
   
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