Author Topic: The Ashley Book of Knots INDEX Project, 2008  (Read 38659 times)

PwH

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Re: The Ashley Book of Knots INDEX Project, 2008
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2009, 11:06:30 PM »


The Round Turn (in all its incarnations) + & - 2HH.

Primary forms of the knot: #36, #37, #41, #42, #1718, #1720, #1721, #1732, #1784, #1785, #1792, #1793, #1794, #1834 to #1838, #1883, #1910.

Practical Work: #162, #173, #200, #252, #407, #467, #478, #506, #534, #1013, #1267, #1270, #1273, #1275, #1612, #1742, #1752, #1772, #1939, #2024, #2102, #2108, #3090, #3091, #3095, #3097, #3099, #3121, #3124, #3145, #3271, #3304, #3314, #3315, #3361, #3378, #3399, #3403, #3410, #3432, #3455 to #3462 (various whippings), #3473, #3526, #3831.

Fancy Work (starting with or including RT): #476, #539, #542, #543, #727, #1006, #2248, #2255, #2257, #2259, #2889, #2890, #3509, #3510, #3542, #3544, #3552, #3553, #3554, #3619.

Tricks with RTs: #2547, #2584, #2596, #2597, #2604.

Knots starting with or including RT: #183, #336, #515, #539, #542, #1035, #1040, #1086, #1090, #1091, #1093, #1130, #1131, #1168(1167), #1169, #1176, #1177, #1186 to #1189, #1230, #1238, #1239, #1251, #1317, #1318, #1689, #1701, #1722 to #1724, #1791, #1840 to #1842, #1854, #1899, #1994, #2019, #2732, #2780.

Mentioned in other entries: #213(211), #390, #1140, #1457, #1513, #1643, #1657, #1669, #1681, #1716, #1846, #1970, #1981, #2028, #2133, #2179, #2774, #3555, #3556.

Mentioned in general text: p335t.

Mentioned in Glossary:  Bring up with a RT : Snub, to~ (RT).

Also Indexed under: Figure 8 hitch, Overhand RT~, RT and ~, RT~, Seized RT, Snaking- RT, Three RT?s, Two RT?s, Underhand RT~.

A bit of a marathon I know, but I have tried to include all mentions of the RT in the book in whatever form and application. No doubt the classifications are somewhat arbitrary and subject to opinion, but I?ve placed them where I see them fall. If I did it again they?d probably be different! Take a look and see what you think. I think I?ll try and find something with about 5 entries for the next one!
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Re: The Ashley Book of Knots INDEX Project, 2008
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2009, 11:04:52 PM »
Just to let you all know that this project has taken a different turn, and the info is currently being encoded in what will eventually be a searchable database online. See the same topic in the computing pages for the mindnumbing details. I will try to get up to date info posted here from time to time, but I think the new twist will be well worth waiting for. Watch this space!
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Re: The Ashley Book of Knots INDEX Project, 2008
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2010, 07:09:51 AM »
Yes, this is an old thread of mine, which has mutated and gone ...
-- well, I'm not sure (but into both a different thread AND category!).

My hope was to convert the not-user-friendly Index of ABOK into
something much more helpful, as well as accurate.  The PwH post I'm
annotating here shows a great effort to improve the Index; Peter has
gone a bit *astray* in grouping so much under one original Index
entry (viz., "Round turn"), but one can see how that is a help, e.g.,
in the case of "Seized round turn" -- which one might not think to
check for, and in the original appears under the "S"s of course.

Below, I have partly annotated PwH's collection by underscoring the
original entries of the Index, to highlight how much more (and better
arranged) information has been drawn out.  (But as time runs out for
me this late night, I'm quitting before fully making all of the underscores
needed, so the difference is here exaggerated -- but I might Edit this
post later, to rectify that in giving the full picture.)

The change to making some Excel work which is the subject of the
mutated thread resulted in grouping by chapter (work, i.e.),
whereas in my original plan the work might be grouped by letter
(of the Index)
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The Round Turn (in all its incarnations) + & - 2HH.

Primary forms of the knot: #36, #37, #41, #42,
Round turn and HALF HITCH #1718,

 #1720, #1721, #1732, #1784, #1785, #1792,

Seized Round Turns #1793[/u],
<Round turn> hitched #1794,

Round turn and HALF HITCH #1834
 to
Round turn & buntline hitch#1838,

 #1883, #1910.

Practical Work: #162, #173, #200, #252, #407,
Round turn and HALF HITCH (bad image) #467,

<Rt> on tree limb #478,

#506, #534, #1013, #1267, #1270, #1273, #1275,

<Rt> on belaying pin #1612,

 #1742, #1752, #1772, #1939, #2024, #2102, #2108, #3090, #3091, #3095, #3097, #3099, #3121, #3124, #3145, #3271, #3304, #3314, #3315, #3361, #3378, #3399, #3403, #3410, #3432, #3455 to #3462 (various whippings), #3473, #3526, #3831.

Fancy Work (starting with or including RT): #476, #539, #542, #543, #727, #1006, #2248, #2255, #2257, #2259, #2889, #2890, #3509, #3510, #3542, #3544, #3552, #3553, #3554, #3619.

Tricks with RTs: #2547, #2584, #2596, #2597, #2604.

Knots starting with or including RT: #183, #336, #515, #539, #542, #1035, #1040, #1086, #1090, #1091, #1093, #1130, #1131, #1168(1167), #1169, #1176, #1177, #1186 to #1189, #1230, #1238, #1239, #1251, #1317, #1318, #1689, #1701, #1722 to #1724, #1791, #1840 to #1842, #1854, #1899, #1994, #2019,
 Round turn and EYE (w/bad pg. ref., really -- to image, not text) #2732[/u],
 #2780.

Mentioned in other entries: #213(211), #390, #1140, #1457, #1513, #1643, #1657, #1669, #1681, #1716, #1846, #1970, #1981, #2028, #2133, #2179, #2774, #3555, #3556.

Mentioned in general text: p335t.

Mentioned in Glossary:  Bring up with a RT : Snub, to~ (RT).

Also Indexed under: Figure 8 hitch, Overhand RT~, RT and ~, RT~, Seized RT, Snaking- RT, Three RT?s, Two RT?s, Underhand RT~.

A bit of a marathon I know, but I have tried to include all mentions of the RT in the book in whatever form and application. No doubt the classifications are somewhat arbitrary and subject to opinion, but I?ve placed them where I see them fall. If I did it again they?d probably be different! Take a look and see what you think. I think I?ll try and find something with about 5 entries for the next one!


In contrast, ABOK has:

Quote
Round turn, 12, 641; hitched, 304; on belaying pin, 285; on tree limb, 77
Round turn and BUNTLINE HITCH, 309
Round turn and EYE, 445
Round turn and HALF HITCH, 76, 309
Round turn and SLIPPED HALF HITCH, 303
Round turn and TWO HALF HITCHES, 296, 303, 309, 314, 316
Round TURN BOWLINE KNOTS 186
Round turn lashing, 535
Round turn snaking, 518
Round turn stitch, 561


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