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General => Fancy and Decorative Knotwork => Topic started by: asemery on October 27, 2019, 12:29:29 AM

Title: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: asemery on October 27, 2019, 12:29:29 AM
Slipped Overhand Knot Lanyard
This lanyard/zipper pull uses a slipped overhand knot as its base.

(https://i.imgur.com/DwgwoQl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dcQsWhw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gNpKHVa.jpg)


Slipped overhand knot lanyard tutorial (https://www.instructables.com/id/Slipped-Overhand-Knot-Lanyard/)


Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: siriuso on October 27, 2019, 09:05:52 PM
Hi Asemery,

Your knot Slipped Overhand Knot is the same as my Ashley's Loop posted in page 23 of KM 137. The article title is named by KM. I have requested to amend the article title to "Manipulating Ashley's Bend", but no respond.

Happy Knotting
yChan
Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: asemery on October 28, 2019, 12:19:21 PM
Hi Asemery,

Your knot Slipped Overhand Knot is the same as my Ashley's Loop posted in page 23 of KM 137. The article title is named by KM. I have requested to amend the article title to "Manipulating Ashley's Bend", but no respond.

Happy Knotting
yChan

Hello yChan,
I have been using this knot for many years.  I have been collecting knotting related books since the 1960's so it took me a while to find where I discovered it. 
"Knots, useful and ornamental" by Shaw, MCMXXIV - before Ashley.   Tony
Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: siriuso on November 01, 2019, 08:57:21 AM
Hi Tony,

I am glad to here from you that you have discovered this knot and use for many years. Will you please show us your past work relating to this knot.

yChan
Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: asemery on November 01, 2019, 06:29:16 PM
Hi Tony,

I am glad to here from you that you have discovered this knot and use for many years. Will you please show us your past work relating to this knot.

yChan
I do not have any past work relating to this knot.  I make up zipper pulls of all sorts (see my past posts) and give them away as I make them.
Here is a photo of bottom of page 10 in the book I cited in previous post.  I purchased this book in the mid 1970's.

(https://i.imgur.com/Aw2t69p.jpg)
Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: siriuso on November 06, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
Hi Tony,

I have searched and found this book on my book shelf. Attacked page 10 herewith.

Sketch I to III and sketch IV and V are two different tying methods with two working ends.

Sketch VI to VIII are tying methods with a working end.

I find that this knot (bend) bears the same configuration with different name in decades, that is:

- Twin Overhand Knot (page 10 of "Knots useful & ornamental" by George Russell Shaw, in 1924).
- Two-strand Diamond Knot (page 140, #781 of ABOK by Clifford W. Ashley, in 1944).
- ABOK #1452 (page 264, #1452 of ABOK by Clifford W. Ashley, in 1944). (later known as Ashley's Bend).

I concur you got a new name for this loop knot tied with one working end (sketch VI to VIII) as Slipped Overhand Knot, while I got it and named as Ashley's Loop Knot in later years. So, I will revise it in my folder "My New Knots" later.

Happy Knotting
yChan

Title: Re: Slipped overhand knot lanyard - tutorial link
Post by: siriuso on January 04, 2020, 02:17:32 PM
Hi all,

On the picture above of page 10, I found that I have not specified the two knots of steps I to V. They are ABOK #1408/1409 (later included in Ashley Books of Knots).

Happy Knotting and Happy 2020
yChan