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General => New Knot Investigations => Topic started by: oneshot on February 06, 2019, 01:28:07 AM

Title: A new bend?
Post by: oneshot on February 06, 2019, 01:28:07 AM
Here is a bend that I have not seen before, which isn't saying much.  So my apologies if it is out there already.

Quite simple to tie, and untie.  Quite pretty.  Seems too simple to be new...

If the form looks familiar, it is because it is based on the Eskimo bowline, or perhaps what we should now call the Inuit bowline. 

Be sure to tie it by threading the end of the red rope in the direction indicated (bottom to top in this example).  The knot will slip if it is tied with the rope going through in the other direction.  Dress the knot by putting most of the pressure on the blue rope, which causes the red rope to fold over.

I would really appreciate your comments on this knot.  Please put it to the test and let me know if you think it might be a new bend in our arsenal...
Title: Re: A new bend?
Post by: roo on February 06, 2019, 04:11:08 AM
Here is a bend that I have not seen before, which isn't saying much.  So my apologies if it is out there already.

Quite simple to tie, and untie.  Quite pretty.  Seems too simple to be new...

If the form looks familiar, it is because it is based on the Eskimo bowline, or perhaps what we should now call the Inuit bowline. 

Be sure to tie it by threading the end of the red rope in the direction indicated (bottom to top in this example).  The knot will slip if it is tied with the rope going through in the other direction.  Dress the knot by putting most of the pressure on the blue rope, which causes the red rope to fold over.

I would really appreciate your comments on this knot.  Please put it to the test and let me know if you think it might be a new bend in our arsenal...

See the Lapp Knot:
https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=1955.0
Title: Re: A new bend?
Post by: oneshot on February 06, 2019, 01:27:39 PM
You are correct... it is strange because I did tie the Lapp to see if it was the same but I ended up with an entirely different form.  Now I see that they are in fact the same knot.  Thank you... moderators please move this post or delete.
Title: Re: A new bend?
Post by: Dan_Lehman on February 06, 2019, 10:41:39 PM
Here is a bend that I have not seen before, which isn't saying much.
So my apologies if it is out there already.

Quite simple to tie, and untie.  Quite pretty.  Seems too simple to be new...

If the form looks familiar, it is because it is based on the Eskimo bowline, or perhaps what we should now call the Inuit bowline. 

Be sure to tie it by threading the end of the red rope in the direction indicated (bottom to top in this example).  The knot will slip if it is tied with the rope going through in the other direction.  Dress the knot by putting most of the pressure on the blue rope, which causes the red rope to fold over.

I would really appreciate your comments on this knot.  Please put it to the test and let me know if you think it might be a new bend in our arsenal...
Here are the main comments :
1) as you've done, the *hitching line* (vs. bight in other line)
should reach across the bight legs to turn & nip the tail
of the bight side (not an issue for tying to an eye);
and importantly
2) take the hitching line's tail around again --at least once--
over its SPart and the one bight leg.  This full turn (possibly
more than one) gives the knot stability and good security
when slack (unlike the sheet bend).  It can be loosened
by pulling the bight legs apart to prise free some SPart of
the hitching line (a little, but enough to then further loosen
& untie the knot).

If untying isn't needed, there might be stronger
versions in which the initial turns of the hitching
line surround both eye legs, later one(s) to go
between and lock.


--dl*
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