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General => Practical Knots => Topic started by: Knutern on April 30, 2018, 09:14:14 PM

Title: Looking for a more secure alternative to Transom knot
Post by: Knutern on April 30, 2018, 09:14:14 PM
This easter, I had the ski bag at the top of my car - needless to say I had to secure the ski bag properly. I did try to see if the Transom knot may work, but the diameter of the ski bag is too large and therefore the transom knot wasn't secure enough.

I had some tries to make a constrictor knot variant to function the same way as the transom knot, but I did never get that variant to get properly secure.
I tried to tie a constrictor knot around the ski bag only, and it made the job seemingly. It was more secure than the strangle knot using same material and object.

So what I'm looking for is a more secure alternative knot to the Transom knot, but a square lashing is not a wanted solution because it takes so much more time to tie.
Title: Re: Looking for a more secure alternative to Transom knot
Post by: Knutern on May 06, 2018, 02:55:28 PM
Just a little reply by myself.

As a temporarly workaround I use a normal constrictor knot, both loops are turned around the horisontal pole (don't know the english term for this thing on the top of a car) and back over the ski bag (other side of the pole). It works, but takes more time to tie because the need of reaching so far (to grab the rope from over the back side of the ski bag).
Title: Re: Looking for a more secure alternative to Transom knot
Post by: SS369 on May 06, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
Hello Knutern.

You could try a strangle type hitch, even doubled, around the roof rack rail.

I know it could be a more involved affair, but, I would probably use a timber hitch followed by some half hitching, around rail and bag. (Extended Killick hitch - like)
Like a sail that is stowed.

SS
Title: Re: Looking for a more secure alternative to Transom knot
Post by: Knutern on May 06, 2018, 06:25:05 PM
Yes, I have thaught on using both poles and some kind of trucker hitch to make it tight, but I want to avoid pulling force between the poles because it add stress to the metal roof, not designed for that.
Title: Re: Looking for a more secure alternative to Transom knot
Post by: Dan_Lehman on May 07, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
I'm unsure of the nature of the objects involved,
but I'd think that a "bag" might be deemed inadequately
rigid/stable_in_shape/subtance to support the use of
any binds-against-object knot such as the strangle
(transom)
.

And that one might be seeking tie-to points on the bag
to tie to the rack, in non-binder-knot ways.  !?

Otherwise, there is also the set of Gleipnir--like floating
binders to consider.
(An image of the problem situation would help generate
specifics!)

 :)