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General => New Knot Investigations => Topic started by: X1 on June 26, 2013, 07:43:05 PM

Title: Yet another bowline-like loop.
Post by: X1 on June 26, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
  Playing with the idea of interweaving a more complex collar structure within the nipping structure of alpineer s m. Tresse bowline (1), I tied the eyeknot shown at the attached picture. Not very simple a knot, that is true, but interesting nevertheless. The structural "balance" between the two parts of the parent "common" bowline, the nipping loop and the collar, is retained in this loop, I believe.

http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4453.0 (http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=4453.0)
Title: Re: Yet another bowline-like loop.
Post by: alpineer on June 27, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
You'll get less bulky results with a single tresse.
Title: Re: Yet another bowline-like loop.
Post by: X1 on June 28, 2013, 12:52:26 AM
You'll get less bulky results with a single tresse.
   Thank you, alpineer,
   After some tying and trying, I have seen that, if we want a collar structure as convoluted as the nipping structure, the single Tresse offers a too-simple base, and the double Tresse a too-complex one !  :)  Those two-line crossings, those "cross-garterings", are not easy things to manipulate, even when you have one line to trace their paths with, the one only leg of the one only structure ( the nipping structure or the collar structure) - so you can imagine what happens when you have two !
   The "trick" with the two interlaced helices was meant to reduce the bulk, but sacrificed a large part of the original idea - and I am not going to say anything about what exactly it did to the simplicity and easiness of tying !  :)  However, this two-line squeezing "tube", around the penetrating returning eye leg and tail pair of lines, seemed an interesting development to me, so I thought I had to present this eyeknot, just as an example of what can be done - I do not believe it is the only possible, or the slimmest possible such knot !  :)