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Capt.GL Chiles:
I know this sounds a bit amateurish, but I tied my first successful Turkshead without prompting from anything! I feel like Im knot retarded, It literally took me a couple of days to get the hang of it! I am getting better at the cockscombing but i feel it will take some time to get proficient. I love this stuff!! My real goal is to be able to make custom grips for various types of fishing poles and railings for yachts, ships, etc. Not too many people out here San Diego way that does this thing anymore, I really do beieve that this is a dying art and will do my best to preserve it. Still being "wet behind the ears"as they say is ok, I think Ill just stick with it until I get it..A little different tying the turks head on a board as opposed to a rail or a round surface, any suggestions ?? Thanks all, Gary Chiles. :o
Mrs Glenys Chew:
That's not amateurish - that's enthusiasm!
I remember my post the night I "... got reckless and did a monkey's fist ..." :D
Go for it. Don't stop for anything but a bewildering tangle.
Have you tried tying a 5-bight TH on your hand yet? I figured it out from the diagram of how to tie a flat one in one of Geoffrey Budworth's books: I just 'put' the diagram onto my hand. The 4-bight works well too. Then you just follow it round as many leads as you want. Lay it flat for a mat, or mill it round both your forefingers for a bracelet/tube.
Tim sends his regards and says "when the wind blows in from the west, a fireman won't get any rest, be warned if it's a blustery day, plenty of work is on the way ".
We hope you get plenty of east winds, therefore ;)
He's very happy right now (well chuffed as they say around here) as the fire brigade have moved into their new station on the other side of the river from us, about 10 minutes away, on his school route, and visible in winter when the intervening trees are bare :) He's already had a tour and met some of the District and Station brass.
:) Glenys
Capt.GL Chiles:
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Hello Glenys,
The best to you and yours! My apologies for not replying sooner for a list of fire services "deadly knots " that are a must know for our job. basically they start with the simple clove hitch, half hitch, Bowline, personally, I think it is still one of the most important knots in the fire service because it is good for forming a single loop that will not constrict the object it is placed around. The entire family of figure eight knots, valuable in rescues and rigs,Becket bend, and then perhaps the good water knot (for webbing). well chuffed is a good thing for a young guy to be that is that enthused about the fire service. Perhaps over there they will let him do a ride along ( as we call it) with Parents permission. We are truly a family, more like brothers, at least we carry on like real ones. sometimes Glenys,as thier Capt ,I swear I could strangle them, but on the other hand , I truly trust each and every one on my crew to risk thier lives to save me and would give mine to save them. These knots that we have to know are not just for fun, they are truly functional and sometimes our lives depend on them. Tim MUST know them to be in the fire service. As for the 5 bight th, I dont know if Ive ever seen one, I will definitely look it up!! By the way, On the West coast of the U.S. the dangerous winds we call the devil winds,(Santa Anas) blow out of the East TOWARDS the ocean, I know it sounds strange, but true! Happy tying, chat soon!!! Gary
kg2v:
--- Quote from: Capt.GL Chiles on July 21, 2012, 06:23:43 PM ---I know this sounds a bit amateurish, but I tied my first successful Turkshead without prompting from anything! I feel like Im knot retarded, It literally took me a couple of days to get the hang of it! I am getting better at the cockscombing but i feel it will take some time to get proficient. I love this stuff!! My real goal is to be able to make custom grips for various types of fishing poles and railings for yachts, ships, etc. Not too many people out here San Diego way that does this thing anymore, I really do beieve that this is a dying art and will do my best to preserve it. Still being "wet behind the ears"as they say is ok, I think Ill just stick with it until I get it..A little different tying the turks head on a board as opposed to a rail or a round surface, any suggestions ?? Thanks all, Gary Chiles. :o
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Sounds just like me! The Turkshead was my bane for years. Practical knots, no problem, cockscombs, angain, NP, but the turkshead KILLED me, untill about two weeks ago
BTW - Just joined both the forum, and guild today
Mrs Glenys Chew:
Hi there Gary + Kg2v (welcome to the Guild :) )
I've been away, but as regards Turks' Heads, this is the mnemonic I use for the way I tie them in hand:
On hand, number fingers thumb=1-little=5. Lay cord from centre of wrist to lay between 2 and 3. All loops are made clockwise on the left hand. I've never tried reversing them on the right hand, but it should work. Just a number means that you loop the finger indicated. The Overs and Unders run fairly close to the insides of the knuckles, not directly across the palm.
TH5Bx'n'L:
3; 1; 4; O-U-O; 2; U-O-U-O; 5 = x2+
TH4Bx'n'L:
O3;O2;U1;D2, O-U-O-U, 4 = x2+
I got this method because of two circumstances:
I'd seen a method of illustrating tying Chinese Knots using a hand cut out of cardboard. I think it was on http://chineseknotting.org/button/howto1/ which is one of KnotMe's sites - the images have been updated now using a jointed wooden mannequin hand. Anyway, not long after that I saw an ordinary 5-bight TH in one of Geoffrey Budworth's photo-illustrated books, and the thought occurred to me that if I reproduced the flat loops on my fingers, I'd find it easier to tie. So I did.
I've never done any photos of it, and I'm having problems uploading photos to my Flickr site at present, but I'll post if I get them done before the end of August :)
Regards,
Glenys
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