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TMCD:
I've known about this knot for quite some time and finally took the time to learn it. What a simple, effective and cool knot, especially for camping. I'm sure it's been discussed on these boards before now but it's a campers delight. I'll start using this for the anchor end of my ridge line and clothesline when camping. I always tie off the other end using a trucker's hitch.

Speaking of camping, they normally recommend that you tie off the guy line using the taut line hitch. The TH would actually work here too and obviously create more tension. What do you other campers on this board use for your guy lines? Doesn't the TH make more sense? Love the Siberian Hitch...what other uses do you guys use it for?

roo:

--- Quote from: TMCD on July 01, 2012, 01:01:39 PM --- Love the Siberian Hitch...what other uses do you guys use it for?

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It can be used as a release-from-a-distance hitch when you don't have access to any rope ends or hitching object ends, as shown in the final diagram here (shown using the watered-down and related Halter Hitch):

http://notableknotindex.webs.com/haltersiberian.html

But on the isolated occasions where I use it, the application is typically non-critical, I'll tend to settle for the reduced-complexity Halter Hitch.

I tend to use the Tumbling Timber Hitch more for release-from-a-distance applications, overall.

knot4u:
Yes, the Siberian is a suitable anchor knot for many applications. Youtube has some videos of using it as an anchor in camping applications.

Where a Siberian can be used, however, I find myself using a Slipped Buntline, a Timber, Sailor, Girth, or some sort of fixed loop. I'm not totally comfortable with how the Siberian opens up on large diameter objects. It remains secure in that form, but I figure there's no reason for me to deal with my discomfort when there are other hitches that will remain true to form.

Regarding the Trucker Hitch, I agree it is a fantastic substitute for a Tautline, a Blake, an Adjustable Grip, etc. I strongly prefer a Trucker Hitch because it's easier to adjust the tension, easier to release, more secure, and easier to get more tension. Minor disadvantages of a Trucker are that it requires a bit more rope, more forethought, and more practice to tie it correctly and quickly.

roo:

--- Quote from: TMCD on July 01, 2012, 01:01:39 PM ---Speaking of camping, they normally recommend that you tie off the guy line using the taut line hitch. The TH would actually work here too and obviously create more tension. What do you other campers on this board use for your guy lines? Doesn't the TH make more sense?

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While it is possible to use some variant of a trucker's-type hitch, they have a drawback.  Namely, they lack the ability to incrementally take up tension or slack as you adjust other parts of the of the tensioned object in question.

Of the mechanisms that do have incremental adjustment ability, the choice depends on the severity and variability of the loads, as well as how forgiving the rope is.

The most robust (& powerful) incremental tensioner:
http://notableknotindex.webs.com/Versatackle.html

Mid-range:
http://notableknotindex.webs.com/blakeshitch.html
http://notableknotindex.webs.com/guyline.html

Low-end:
http://notableknotindex.webs.com/tautline.html

If you use these with ground stakes, it is entirely possible to leave them permanently in the line so that you don't have to keep re-tying them.

knot4u:
Browsing the Internet, I randomly came across the Farrimond Friction Htich:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrimond_friction_hitch

Does anybody here use this?

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