General > Practical Knots
Securing a cork in a pressurized bottle
knot4u:
For remembering...
The Beer Knot (Fig. 332) is based on a slipped Overhand, like a Marlinspike Hitch is.
The first Champagne knot (Fig. 336) is based on a slipped Figure Eight.
The second Champagne knot (Fig. 340) is based on a slipped Overhand.
http://books.google.com/books?id=miHrAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA300&lpg=PA300&dq=champagne-knot&source=bl&ots=nY1U-dk1V2&sig=ioady6BpwS6h1oYHqipvWxhIp9c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=G4gQT4a4DMbdtgfi6Ph0&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=champagne-knot&f=false
knot4u:
The pics of these knots look cool, but I'm wondering who has actually used the Champagne Knot. What were the materials? How did it work out for you?
I tried the Champagne knot (slipped Fig Eight) on a wine bottle with a plastic cork. I was using jute twine. I tied a Square knot on top. I couldn't get the knot as tight as desired. Also, it was relatively easy to slide the knot off to the side.
I know those aren't "ideal" materials. So, that's why I'm wondering what others have used. Hmmm, is the Beer knot better than the Champagne knot?
Drugstorebrewer:
I'm still gathering materials, so I haven't put the twine to bottle yet.
I am wondering about the top knot...I was thinking of a square knot as well, then trim the loose ends close to the knot or something.
The picture of the champagne knot has the two loose ends wrapping around each other a few times, which looks nice but I can't imagine it holding the cork in place.
Any ideas for a simple and perhaps decorative knot for the top?
SS369:
Hello Drugstorebrewer.
I believe that the pictured knot will work well even though it looks so simple. Simple is good sometimes. The coils of the knot will dig into the cork top and friction would hold it all in place and it probably/maybe was finished off with another to make it a "surgeon's" knot.
Your request begs answering to the question of: Do you want a knot that unties and may be less secure or one that is down right secure/permanent?
I probably would use something you would find on this site http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/index.htm
SS
Sweeney:
--- Quote from: Drugstorebrewer on February 02, 2012, 05:45:27 AM ---I am wondering about the top knot...I was thinking of a square knot as well, then trim the loose ends close to the knot or something.
The picture of the champagne knot has the two loose ends wrapping around each other a few times, which looks nice but I can't imagine it holding the cork in place.
--- End quote ---
If you tie a square knot and trim the ends close it will come undone easily. As SS369 says the simple wrap may work well especially in the likes of jute which has a rough surface. A dab of clear glue on the cork before finishing the knot will help to keep it in place and won't be obvious.
Barry
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