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small fancy bend
Dan_Lehman:
Absent any clear resolution on what a *knot* is, let's just say
that the particularly shaped tangle presented here is the same
but for given loading of the hackamore / jug/bottle sling knot
which is presented in many knots books. It's a neat-looking
structure, and sure would be a fancy decorative knotting
to use as a lanyard knot (maybe we should ping-pong this
back into that other forum ( maybe we can define rules
whereby particular Moves are given Over/Under relations
to prior ones, and we could define / tie a knot simply by
moving the thread back'n'forth in just the right way! ;D )).
I put a hurt on some 5/8" laid CoEx PP/PE (using a 5:1
crummy pulley and me); I don't accept the "easy to untie"
claim, though I did untie it without tools (or Words of Command ).
--dl*
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Mike in MD:
Dan, I agree. The weave is the same as the jug sling. I put it in Fancy/Decorative because that is how I use it. But I think that with the right rope it is a very effective bend. The knot is tricky to set up. There are two *bumps* in the center. Two half loops go around the bumps on the outside. The loops have to be set snug against the standing part. Then it works very well. My experience is that pulling on the outside loops quickly unties the bend.
Mike
xarax:
A picture of the Maik s bend, that shows its symmetry. This bend can also be viewed as a twice retucked thief knot.
xarax:
A similar bend is the A 22, "Axis knot", by Roger E.Miles ( Symmetric bends. (How to Join Two lLengths of Cord), 1995 ( p. 84, p. 105). In a sense, it is "more" symmetric than Mike s bend, and so a little easier to inspect. (See the attached pictures).
xarax:
Yet another knot, that resembles the Axis knot. I call it "Two Pretzels" knot, because that is what it is, two simply interlinked Pretzel-form-like (un)knots. We can/should(?) also call call it : the "Axis B" knot. As the Mike s "small fancy bend" and the Axis bend, the two interlinked (un)knots in this "Two Pretzels" knot are not overhand knots - so we can use this knot, as well as the other two, for end-of-line bowline-like loops. (The knot presented here is more compact than the other two, which mght be considered as an advantage.)
(Miller, in a note on Axis bend, refers to Ashley s "Flat Square Knots", ABoK#803, ABoK#804.)
P.S. This knot is not symmetric, as regards the standing end/tail configuration - so the picture coresponds to two distinct knots.The fact that I do not specify the standing ends and the tails, has only to do with the fact that I do not know which is the more secure configuration for each case, the bend knot and the fixed, end-of-the-line, bowline-like knot.
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